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Never had a gf, or suffered a break-up, etc etc. Question about this particular shit test — her stating that she has a boyfriend. Would simply ending the evening right there be a strong response to this shit test, or a weak one? This happened to me once, and half of me wanted to do that — just end the evening right there. But I went through it. Sounds like she was just screening you out early. When I look back at my relationships during my beta days, I can vividly remember how several failed shit tests lead to the breakup. After reading this I can say with absolute certainty that one of my first girlfriends used to shit test me all the time, except I had no clue at the time she was doing it, and therefore never passed the tests.

I have also had other friendships, and when viewed through the S-test framework, make a lot more sense. On a broader scale, I have also heard some people suggest that the last years of the feminist movement has been nothing but a collective S-test against western society I. The world makes a lot more sense through this lense. This post is exactly what I needed to understand this concept more thoroughly. I just started slightly picking up on these tests after months of reading about it but this has definitely helped for sure.

Finally an article that explains shit testing in depth without just regurgitating the same old material and examples that you see all over the other blogs and forums. This is a must read for anyone who is trying to improve their social game. Hey illimitableman could you elaborate a little bit on shit-test frequency with plates and LTR?

Is their any order to frequency or severity. Then I got tested again last night tell her im going to bed. So on and So on. A shit test is when a woman calls you up at either 1: A nuclear way to put an end to this type of shit test is to demand to know what in the fuck she thinks she is doing calling you at that hour! It is worth it just to hear her whimper and stutter. I have bedded 20 yr old conservative virgins faster than this. Several of them, in fact. And two of them believed in sex-after-marrriage.

That is until I put my tongue betwen their legs. Suddenly the panties come off. After hearing her fantasies, instead of going to bed, you should have told her that you have to do a few things but for her to wait up for you. If she asks what for, tell her that you are going to give her the biggest set of multiple orgasms in her life.

So now you’re thinking:

Dont answer your phone! Instead, rush your ass over to her house. The moment she opens the door make your move right there with the door open. And do her right there on the linving room floor! I would guess the only reason she is still dating you is because she is a uncertain about what type of man you are, b confused about what kind of man she wants or c she is too ugly or insecure to get the man she wants in this case: The fact that she is retestting you tells me that she probably spent the last two months looking for something better and failed.


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And now, she has decided due to some element in your behavior to reassess her earlier eval of you to see if she overlooked any of your qualifications. This is good news for you, if you know how to up your game without playing the fool like you have been. I have climbed in bedroom windows, fucked, got caught by the parents and then came back for more the next day. Serously, my first time the step-father was a deputy at the sherifs dept.

He called my mother and complained. I literally just lost my virginity. Annlyze that book, take notes, test your menory of what it says, and make comparisons between it and your past methods. Dude you are full of shit and full of yourself. I have the balls to go for it, etc etc. Please, its all about your ego in your post. Thanks for taking time out of your pussy filled life to help us less fortunate. Go fuck yourself clown.

How many constructive comments have you even given in here? How many people have you given advice to in here? Fucking a woman is one thing, but you will run in to problems building a normal life and a stable home with that nonsense. Joe, I suggest you find a devout christian woman or lower your standards and a find a woman that will worship you.

Save yourself the headache man with all the unnecessary games from people who will constantly challenge your value. Life is too short. By the time you are 60 with grand children, Men like Scott would have had several divorces with children from different wives. They will claim that they are still fucking virgins by age 60, but the truth is that they would have hit the wall with nothing to show for it. I can tell you get a lot of ass by the way you write your posts.

You are a god amongst boys. Thank you so much for your help. Im happy that you are confident, i can also tell that by your posts. Women are also known to spend time watching asinine soap operas and reading inane romance novels. Guys who engage in shit testing and talking shit are generally on the feminine side psychologically and they tend to be full of shit.

They typically are the MOST reactive bunch of ass clowns there are, which is why they, like women, attempt to stir up drama. And, for the same reason low order delusional women will embrace alcoholic drug addled poverty stricken men, of little or no social value or worth, as alpha of the highest order, based on such pathetic tactics as shit testing, a man of substance will walk away from such tripe altogether, because he damn sure does not need the approval of the mindless herd to begin with. These are the most reactive people you will ever meet, and they become very emotional over the slightest perceived criticism, they tend to be the kind of people who can dish it out but cannot take it, believing that their vapid idiotic social lives amount to a life and death struggle, and they are typically as phony as a three dollar bill.

Their ego is their identify, and there is nothing there behind the shell. They struggle and fight like hell to maintain a strong frame, because they are weak as hell and would collapse without it, so they engage in false constructs and illogical fallacies, their whole lives are typically a lie. Nice post, but some shit tests are made up or ludicrious for instance.

If woman says, she has a boyfriend, it may really mean she has a boyfriend and telling you to piss off. If woman says you are too short to date, she may actually tell you the real reason she wont date you. Not all women are skanks and its not that simple as you describe. For instance, one woman has showed me why women play sometimes hard to get or those I dont know answers or what not.

It builds sexual tension, believe me when woman knows what she is doing with the hard to get for instance, she will make you horny as a 15 year old boy watching his first porn. Many women epicly fail at this. They go overboard, they miscomunicate, they forget to wink or smile or use wrong words wich means you may take it wrongly, like she is not interested while infact, she is interested only wanted to make it little more insteresting.

Many women use this as shit test, but in my opinion its origin was a meant of flirtation. Little harmless mindgames can make you horny as shit…both of you. These tests can be actually fun, if the woman is experienced and knows what she is doing and what to actually test. And thats why those stupid women end up with drug addicts who beat them up or rape them…. Seen it too many times. While you are right with the you should grow balls, you are so wroooong with the you can shag any woman you want. If women doesnt want shag you wont get any unless you rape her.

You can be master charmer but if woman doesnt want, you wont get here there, simple fact. The only way is to manipulate her, but even if she is adamant on not having it, you wont have it. The irony is that the more charming and good looking you are, the less chance you have getting laid, because women have so called bs detector.

If you are smooth talker and looking good, they will automaticaly categorize you as the one who wants to use me a. They may get out of their way to do things for you, but you wont bed them, they will flirt but they will chicken out. Great example is my friend, who looks like a fucking ronaldo, knows smooth talk, has Money yet…. Its a big problem, because if you want even basic interaction with woman, she will either shy away, stay there like salt pillar, behave like crazy.

If you want to shag her tough luck, you are womanizer in here eyes forever. God protect if you want normal relationship with her, it will be nuclear shit storm and even if she will see you are actually normal guy who wants to have relationship with you, tough luck she will chicken out because of jelaousy,envy from her friends and such, only few women have nerves of steel for such bs. You have to be average or slightly but only slightly above average and you have to find the proper group.

Because if you are average woman is not intimidated by your looks, doesnt categorize you as player and if you are ugly than tough luck too. Women love when man has balls, but women are full of contradictions. She may want to sleep with you, she will fantasize about you, but believe me, sooo many times she will just chicken out…like men too. Majority of men too, if woman would just show up their V and say fuck me now, they would run away.

Its not that simple, best bet is being drunk. Women who are not very attractive or physically fit will glare at very fit and attractive guys, and give them the most hateful stares, or up and down looks! You are correct, women will turn on their female friends out of envy. And if a woman sees that her friend is mad in love with a guy, watch her try to poach him from her, or at least fuck him behind her back! I never played games with women, and I have slept with a slew of them, and women will disown their friends out of envy, and they will cheat if they believe that it might offer them a better opportunity, or simply for the adventure and experience.

But, good looking guys have to be on their guard, because other guys will view them as a threat and they will work alone or in cliques to try to bring him down, and loser bitches will do the same thing, while they go through auto rejection. If a good looking guy does not sleep with a woman on the first get together, she will begin to doubt her sexual desirability and feel that it was a wasted encounter.

If he does not sleep with her on the third encounter, she will have a psychological melt down and throw a fit. For a man who is calm, collected, and icy chill, and maintains a strong internal state, the sense is that he is living among a gathering of baboons. A gorgeous, thin, athletic, feminine hottie was drooling over me the other day, we kept making solid eye contact with one another, then she parked her butt over in a somewhat secluded area, and she waited for me to come over.

When I did not venture over yonder, she shot me a really impatient glare, she was definitely DTF, and I guess she figured I was just the one to plant a stick of dynamite between her legs. I left her dangling in frustration instead. If only I could have seen what was going on! That was my chance! Oh, when will I ever learn! I am not suggesting that I did not want to tear it up, but other things come into consideration at times.

I am somewhat stoic when it comes to the monkey dance, not because I cannot get laid, but because there is an abundance of opportunity. If you were walking through an orchard, and there were spoiled and rotting fruit everywhere, and there were plenty of fruit that were on limbs and within easy reach, you would not walk around pissing and moaning about the fruit you did not taste. On this , worth reading the following. This shit-testing is only tolerated in the lower and middle classes.

Agreed, there are different shit tests applied at different levels of society. Class distinctions often involve overt or covert signaling and non-verbal communication. My last girlfriend was borderline and I researched obsessively to try to understand all the shit that she did and where she was coming from.

I understand now and it doesnt phaze me because I know what she is doing. Looking back at my previous relationships with higher quality women they would never shit test, on the contrary, would just be chill and supportive. I guess if you dont mind shit tests its not that big of a deal, but understand that you dont have to put up with that shit. If you dont feel like it, just next her. Clearly you have had little or no interaction with the upper class or what you have had has been horribly ineffective.

They simply do it in a less obvious and obtrusive manner. They are masters of double meaning, plausible deniability, and crushing others in a polite battle of wits. They also tend towards mastery of social intelligence, covert action, the biting remark that forces you into a lose-lose situation concerning responses. I love having tests thrown at me, simply out of the entertainment I get from passing or ignoring them.

Completely agree with your comments on inner game also. In my beta days a few years back I hated shit tests, I feared them. In fact I almost find an absence of shit test boring. This is not only great for making friends, but likewise getting laid! Being challenged is an essential part of building strong relationships. The more of an asshole and non-affectionate I am, the more power I seem to be given by these women. My muscular in shape buddy tells me to look at a girl and tells me how hot she is.

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I laugh with my brother about it because I pull more girls now, then when I was in complete shape and muscular a few years back and beta. And chicks still want the D because of how I act. I have a distaste for many types of women and decide to use any sexual energy on productive things. I dismiss the undesirables, and focus more on what I want.

Opens up time and money for improvement in aspects I see fit, and gives me more power in life than I felt was possible. Being in shape is essential. But it goes to show how powerful this truth is. Most of the guys I know realise that this is the go-to response to shittests, regardless of if they even know what shittests are in the first place. Disagree and Amplify is usually the wittier option when done correctly, but ignoring their shittests or disregarding them with a simple yes or no usually works better.

Of course agree and amplify is great for girls, which seems to be the main focus of this post in the first place. Just keep in mind the responses are different between men and women as men have inevitably dealt with more shittests than women, making it easier for your answer to be deemed uncreative by them. It is great for interaction between and among people who are psychologically, emotionally, and developmentally arrested, and for those who like to, or care to engage with them.

Scientists state that when people come together for the first time, they are operating at the psychological level of a six year old, and then often times what follows is a phenomenon known as group psychopathology. She threw me off with how she mangled every social code in the book by being so direct and lunkheaded, and I laughed in her face — and goodnaturedly told her that my girlfriend was at the bar true and that sometimes men talk to women without trying to fuck them true in rare cases. If she grabs your arm or stops you or calls after you with emotion: Excessively confident, assertive, but indifferent.

At which point I will fuck the solid shit out of her. Very good breakdown and reply. That would especially work on Eastern Europe chicks. I read will fling me into flashback mode. I guess I needed this, so thank you. When you make the decision to pass a S. I think understanding what shit tests are is important. As far as passing them? And if they say something rude and offensive? We have a lot of men working far too hard to impress narcistic bitches….

Modern city girls are spoilt fools who dont realise how quickly they would need mens help if.. And the men in question cld be fat and insecure, they wld still have skills and strenght that women wld need. Good article by camille Paglia in the telegraph.. Ive been thinking about these kinds of tests, and i cant help thinking that a big part of the problem is that few men nowadays have really masculine occupations.

Eg building a house, fighting off indians, hunting lions, sailing the high seas…. Coupled with this, most women, especially in non rural areas are brainwashed by anti- male feminazism , have unrealistic expectations, are pathologically narcistic and have little or no empathy for the challenges that men face in a fairly fascist PC World. I really dont think city girls are in any way qualified to test a man in any way… as they themselves are weak willed, unfit , have little honor etc etc.

An ex navy seal can throw challenges at me, but he will do so in a constructive way. Spend money on an escort instead of wasting time and money… Build yourself up physically and financially. Then find a country girl with values and moderation. Although, every once in a while I do like to fill my ego with good game. Makes me feel how I should. Those are the ones who purely fill my need and are discarded immediately like the trash they are. Only women who have strong father figures and avoid the brainwashing of modern day cunts, deserve my time.

Surprisingly this article has restored my faith in love. I agree with your assessment of most women as childish; Mary Wollstonecraft said that in the s and in those days she blamed men for the education or lack of it they provided girls. Today we blame media and so on, and, like you, I blame aggressive feminism and overbearing mothers for the emasculation of men.

I wonder if you could help me with a linguistic quest? I have no intention of cheating and have never cheated emotionally or physically. I was simply excited to connect with someone over Game of Thrones or what have you! This post leaves me thinking there is no point in being friendly to the guys in my office. Witty women are flirtatious, and of course those signals are taken as a form of sexual interest.

Sexual tension gets in the way. As a female I agree with his response. Generally, only Beta males with sexual attraction towards you will remain your friend because of the tension otherwise. My best male friend is a Beta and I love him as a friend. Although I do try on occasion. I got him laid once because I bought him a Trojan condoms shirt and told him that if any girl gave him shit about it to tell her the shirt was completely ironic because he prefers it raw. It worked out for him. Also, I recognize that at a very basic level I enjoy the attention and flattery my Beta friend gives me because of the ego boost.

Women also enjoy some ego building, just as you men do. I think the major flaw with this site is that it posits that women are terrible people when we are not. I never led my friend on, have had the same boyfriend since we met, and was always very direct with him about that. I also will wing woman for him when we go out to increase his perceived value to other women. That being said, if someone is going to be weak male or female they are going to have to become stronger or deal with the repercussions. I think that point should be more the focus of your site rather than making women the enemy.

Doing so is going to create a psychological sexual conflict for your readers. Otherwise, very interesting site! You pity him, but not enough to not leverage his attraction into personal gain. This was a great analysis, kudos to you. I also found myself realizing I subconsciously use these without even realizing, so this made me call myself out on my own bs, which is never a bad thing. Reading body language is key here. The first can be a legitimate rejection, or the truth. So once again, watch out with this one, not every girl is down to cheat on her man.

Also, if said boyfriend actually exists, you could be tangling yourself into a web of bullshit in which a one night stand leaves you with a dude ready to punch you out at any moment. Last thing most girls want from a casual hookup is a crazy bitch chasing her down for ruining her relationship.

Also, morals could stop some girls right there. Depending on the situation judgement call necessary here! Women do this a lot I feel. Reading this makes me never want to have to talk to another person again. While I agree with you about sincerity and kindness, from my experience those that show sincerity and kindness too often get used by pretty women and power hungry men. If you ARE that scared, then you already have been rejected and exiled from the group, or relegated to the bottom position as the emotional punch bag everybody ridicules for cheap laughs.

Refer back to the article and the simplicity of employing yes slash no replies. Or if the composure comes naturally, silence is the proverbial. Laughing them off with a boisterous manner works for me. The boring,the boorish, the BPDs,the selfish,the vainglorious medical student, the hyper foreign tourists. Failing shit tests literally saved me. For my bibliography, I need to know the real names of every person who contributed to its creation and upload. For example Iam 99 percent with your little monkey brain you are trying trick IM to give his personal information so you can find solid target for your cult feminism to attack.

But 1 percent you are really honest guy. In my teens I actively strove to counter any budding interest I had in them due to my experiences with girls before puberty. All I knew how to do was get into conflicts with them and that society sees to it that there are no winning outcomes for males when they disagree with females.

I was not about to let hormones deceive me into thinking that they were suddenly worth the aggravation of dealing with just because they have tits and ass. So when it came, I retreated into past times like video games and pretty much anything that could make me laugh and left sexuality to the birds and bees. Finding the manosphere recently gave me head knowledge from men who are successful with women and making the comparisons with the experiences of people I know and observed.

It seems that the best way to sum up the rules of the game is that women are attracted to men who believe and can visibly demonstrate that he is in fact superior to her and the other men she has potential access to and will use his unshakeable confidence in that fact to lay claim to her. Which is all well and good for her when she can get the man who does. But all the man got in exchange is someone inferior to him, who constantly creates drama only to see if she can get away with it and will in most cases never outgrow this childish behaviour.

And if that man can make it on his own which he surely can if he is deemed of any value to women , then what tangible worth is she to him really? Late twenties virgin here and I just really want to stick my cock in a pussy to know what it feels like. Otherwise too much hassle. Why would I not be myself and start being a clown to attract holes? Why would I have children in a world where they give all the power to glorified children women.

I guess flirting and enjoying feminine energy whatever that is is fun for some men but I highly doubt it is worth it. I have rarely interacted with individuals I understood on a base level and they were all men. Most of people are busy being sheeps and talking about useless things. Thanks for opening my eyes to shit tests.

I was not even aware that they existed until now. Typical beta I suppose. I saw questions only as simple questions, and since I am averse to lying, such questions had to be answered honestly, or at least with the fawning tactfulness that is common to betas. Even being ribbed by other guys — which you have also defined as shit tests — I found unpleasant. To my mind, it was just low level bullying. The idea that such banter is some kind of initiation is entirely novel. My response was usually to walk away, or give an awkward half smile at receiving an insult, or tell the teacher.

As I see now, none of this was a good response. I also found when chatting up women that I completely dried up. It was a bit rainy today huh? I enjoyed a fair amount of grief in Sixth Form too. College turned out to be much more fun as a result of caring less about making friendships. Banter was an acquired taste for this former bookworm. If I had known people do this type of thing I would have handled the situations I was in with a lot more diplomacy and I would have used my command of the English language to verbally humiliate the people who testing me and put them in their place.

Its great fun when you can beat someone down verbally and generate compliance especially with women. People lie all the time and you have to whip them hard mentally to get needs met lol. There are Much More important things in Life… Like having an ambition, a goal and a drive to achieve! Work on that shit and, the pussy should come to you…. Anyway, the last time a very attractive girl approached me was early this year. A new employee at the time at my work place. Also, I Want to settle down… Eventually… And a woman half my age?

Anyway, she started showing me family photos of herself and her family during the first few weeks. She even accompanied me to the train station we took to commute back home I live in London and she in Reading UK … And she also approached me during our lunch breaks to chat etc….

Anyway, suffice to say, she was probably starting to get a little annoyed with me, by not caving into her whims… So that one day, she seriously shit-tested me in the staff kitchen, by challenging my intelligence and my science background! I was livid with rage! Anyway, I played it cool for a couple of months… I was distant, getting on with my shit, took the piss out of her a little from time to time… Nothing serious, just a little reminder that my good will mood had changed.

I also called her a bitch indirectly to another colleague, but she heard me! Getting angry is the same thing as failing their shit tests. Women are essentially full-sized children. They think and act completely on emotions, just like a child. Ever watched a parent ignore a toddler who was misbehaving? Ever watched a parent lose her shit and start screaming and yelling at a toddler who was misbehaving? You lost your frame in that moment you screamed at her. Children are afraid of parents who scream at them too. I am a single guy, 37 years old who is not married nor has kids.

Heck, I have never even asked a girl out before!! Have been since One thing I have found is that I am not a man with a great deal of patience for certain things. Shit testing is one of them. In my opinion, vagina is simply not worth the pain, stress and duress that one has to go through to get it. The other thing that really astounds me is, many men have patience for the shit testing and allow themselves to be treated as such. I cannot understand that!!

Of course, if game and vagina is worth the pain and headaches to get there, then more power to you. For me, I use my time, intellect and game for other endeavors. I would much rather invest in knowledge of the stock market, guns, hunting, fishing or video games. One can choose their own way and not be conformed to societal norms and pressures. I do not care for nor do I seek female attention or validation. I am my own second best validator. The other validator is Jesus Christ. Personally, I have found Jesus to be the best validator in the universe.

He does not want me to be used and abused in life. He has a plan for my life. A future that is productive, bright and hopeful. For me, there are only three sets of people I seek validation from. Second is myself and third are my friends and support system. I have figured out how to surround myself with people that positively affirm me for who I am and whose I am.

I discard the folks who cannot positively affirm me or cannot accept me for who, whose and what I am. I discard them like so much garbage!! Humour is way more fun than anger. Besides being angry just validates everything the fem-nazis say about us men any way. Men are agressive, men are violent, men have anger issues etc. As for the 25yr old shit testing you and your science, laugh and act impressed that she knows such big words, especially with only an arts degree. Or the ever popular, shhhh, grownups are speaking. The last 3 years of my life have been a shit test, that I failed pre red pill.

Men Going Their Own Way. It is a phenomenon that has only recently taken off. What I find both interesting and frustrating is that shit tests are everywhere and non-stop. My wife of 13 years tests boundaries constantly. My boss says shit just to fuck with me. Friends jockey for position with playful put downs. Any advice on recovering from being a beta? I got really good grades in high school and am pretty good looking.

Do you also have advice on how to overcome past abuse and get back in the game. Many fucks are given to those who feign to give zero fucks? But if you really give zero fucks, than youre not given any fucks since youre deemed as having lost this invisible fight? Dont start what you cant finish, it makes you look short sighted and ill prepared.

Conserve your resources and only go nuclear when its truly worth it. End game is everything. Work backwards and your moves will be consistent and natural. Very often, women do not know what they are feeling in the moment. Our emotions can be intense and even conflicting. That creates an inner conflict between what we are experiencing and what we think we should be experiencing. And how can men be both the cause and solution to our problems? More inner conflict or hamstering, as many would describe it!

The shit test is an emotional outburst to gauge if our problem is caused by or can be resolved by the man. What you get to the heart of with your solutions, is not to take the question seriously, you are not taking responsibility in any way the cause or the solution for her inner conflict. They are a result of our culture, the misinformation spread to women and their personal hormonal cocktail. The real solution, of course is for her to understand her body chemistry better, her moods, her feelings and take personal responsibility for handling them.

And to reject the current cultural teachings which tell her that men are the cause of her problems, that tell her to reject her femininity, that tell her that to be strong and that she must always be in control of everything. An interview is a sh t test Going on a date is a sh t test Talking to people is a sh t test….

Hanging out with your friends and you poke fun at each other…shit test. And being challenged can be an extremely motivating factor for someone. The challenge of the game is one aspect to why you become as addicted as you do. Just look at two of the best and most addictive games out right now: World of Warcraft and Modern Warfare 2. In both games, you level up constant measurable growth. After 5 months of doing nothing more than playing Starcraft all day long, I moved back home to Calgary. I started playing Modern Warfare 2. The social aspect of these games is what really draws you in.

Eventually you get bored and do something else. But the games that keep you around for a long time are the ones that are social. Think about World of Warcraft, or Modern Warfare 2. These games added a major social aspect to each game, and that is why they have millions of players worldwide, millions of players who play them for a long long time. If you look at the best and most addicting games out there, they all comprise these core pieces. They are challenging, but you can also see constant growth and improvement over time. They allow you to escape, even if only temporarily. Well, other than having that firm commitment, you need to fill all four of these areas with new activities.

You have to fill them with activities that you like, ones that you like a lot. What activities did I start doing to fill those voids, allowing me to not need video games for that fix? I started to work on my social skills. This worked out really well. But only because I took it very, very seriously. A lot of them like to play video games. This is no surprise. There are some that have been successful in kicking that desire, and others that have not. But it only works if you take it seriously. Social Dynamics is essentially a proactive approach to living the life you want.

So they would find themselves bored at home a lot, and when you are bored at home, video games are an easy solution to that problem. What else could you do? If you want to learn how to play guitar, do it! But remember, playing guitar is missing one key piece: So instead of playing by yourself in your room all the time, play with a buddy a couple times a week.

Start a band or something. That would make a big difference. Read through the comments at the end of this article. Download my Free Guide Oh, and make sure you leave a comment too! Any activity you enjoy will work! If you have friends that just sit around all day playing video games… get new friends!

None of my friends sit around all day playing video games, because we share other common interests. They all want to grow and develop other skills. I have friends that dance. Others that play in a band. You need to find some type of lifestyle activity that you love. Something you are passionate about. I have a few friends that share that same passion so we hang out and do it. DJing allows me to escape from life temporarily and to relax. See a pattern here? I hope this article helps you guys out. You will finally be able to quit playing video games once and for all, giving you the time you need to live the life you want to live.

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Thanks for the comment Max. I think this article is powerful. Gets a ton of hits from the teamliquid. This is an excellent article. I like how you define the benefits of video gaming and provide solutions to get out of an obsessive lifestyle that may be limiting. Your language demonstrates that our emotional connections to activities are the drivers, not rational thought and this means that in order to change behavior, we need access healthy options that can make us feel good. Thanks for the comment Kelley.

I agree with everything you said. Appreciate you taking the time to add your input. This puts you in control of the game, You play it rather then it plays you. A few years ago I blamed video games as the cause of unhappiness and literally snapped my game disc in half, I went cold turkey. Still your end point remains true, find something else you like MORE then video games. This is important because Games are consumable media, You Need to create aswell to feel happy.

If you recognize the teamwork aspect is something you enjoy a lot from the games, you could definitely look around and find other team based environments to fill your time with instead. BUT now I need to quit cold turkey, I am taking this very seriously and will succeed thanks alot.

Thanks for taking the time to comment. I totally agree with everything you said but I still have mixed feeling about games. I use to be really into counter strike when I was younger then I noticed that when i stopped playing for a while I really sucked. I realized that all good feeling I received when playing games where just a false scene of accomplishment because after spending all those hours at it, I never really gained any practical skills. On the other hand when I was a kid I started playing this math game and it allowed me to see progressive results giving me a large passion for math that has been with me ever since and has helped me greatly in life.

Cam do you think that if used responsibly games could help you practice and gain practical skills in a fun way? Thanks for the comment. If you are playing games to build skills I think that is ok. I myself used to be an video game addict back in my junior high days. What broke my addiction is actually the newer video games like Warcraft and Modern Warfare. A cool and realistic they looked, they had a big learning curve and took a long time to master.

If you are married, have kids, take the dog to the dog park and still do all the things people with families do, is there any reason to stop gaming if you enjoy it? Andy, Thanks for taking the time to comment. I definitely agree that with the amount of time needed to master games like Warcraft and Modern Warfare, it can be easy to break your habit. The opposite can also be said though.

With these games becoming more in-depth with longer learning curves, they can also be much more addicting and take up that much more of your time. Every time you play you become more invested. This causes you to not want to stop until you DO master it. Scary cycle to be in. Happy to hear you were able to break your habit though. Life is too awesome to be spent playing video games.

Sam, thanks for coming by! I can see where you are coming from. Why quit if you have no reason to? I will answer it with a question of my own: With every hour your husband spends playing video games, what does he really gain from it, other than the pure enjoyment of gaming? However my opinion is this: We can than use this free time and flexibility to do the things we truly enjoy, like spending more time with our family, etc. You can play hours and hours and hours of video games all you want, but at the end of it, you will still be the same person you were.

I truly believe you should grow every single day. You should still grow every day. Every hour you spend playing video games is an hour you are stagnant. Second, I was always more interested in plot, storyline, realism, ie. All of these things were huge in me discovering who I ought to be IRL, so to speak. Knowing who you are, where you are strongest, and where you are weakest is a huge part of succeeding at real life challenges. Quitting anything is times easier if you have a reason why that is emotionally rooted. Why do supermodels force themselves to eat almost nothing and stand in front of a camera or mirror all day?

How boring does that sound? Thanks a lot Cam. This article really helped me with my game play. I am trying to find other things that I love to do instead of playing video games. Hope you have a chance to check out the rest of the site. Thousands of dollars spent.

Dropped out of college… I like the slap in the face that this article provided. Count me as one of your success stories. I appreciate you taking the time to comment and share your thoughts with me. Keep me posted on how your journey goes. Have you had a chance to check out the rest of the site? Any other posts stand out to you?? I feel like I need to be rewarded ,, which playing computer game.. I definitely understand the situation you find yourself in. You come home and want to do nothing more than to sit down and relax.

Video games seem to be the perfect solution. And in many ways it is. Except for one flaw: You wake up the next day and repeat. This goes on every day. Eventually at work you get a promotion so you make more money. With this money you go on more elaborate vacations for week or two, have a more expensive car, house, material things. You do this for 40 years and then retire.

Does that make any sense to you? There has to be a better way. So with your current life right now, you get home, tired, and want to reward yourself by playing video games. My question is this: For many people, there is NO time in the day that they put towards that. I could dive into a rant about how at what point in the day are you not tired? You get to work: Two hours before you finish your workday: You get home from work: You go to bed, tired. What I will say instead is this: About learning how to pick up da ladies, what is the area you are having trouble with right now?

Loved every word of your post. I have a unique situation. I have 3 addicting factors all boiled into one. I like to play Madden. I play in ever spare minute I have. I also Gamble with Madden. I have lost over 5, dollars and for some reason I still want to continue. So now I have video games and gambling and I also smoke marijuana. I can tell your a very smart person and you put it in words very fluently. I have sold the game and even told the website I use for gambling to not allow me on.

But then I will just come back and they will let me back. I am going to try and completely quit this crap. It is the holidays coming up and I would like to start using my energy towards my Friends, Family, Etc. I believe the key to successfully quitting video games is a determination for a better life. Like I said in a comment above, at some point in your life you have to wake up and realize that the life you are currently living is not the one that will ultimately lead to your success and happiness.

Is it playing madden, gambling and smoking weed? Or is it something else? Things that make you WANT to wake up each and every day. Your attitude has to be that today is the first day of the rest of your life. To use a football analogy: Life is much more fun. So you mentioned you want to start putting your energy towards friends and family. If you played Madden any spare minute you had, you better make sure your schedule is BUSY but still fun.

Also, when you want to have a bit of downtime which is necessary , what are you going to do instead of Madden? So I never really get out of the house and im always playing games. How do I quit being such a loser? What are some activities you enjoy other than sports and video games? Are you interested in Music? Art of any kind? I was in that same position playing hockey for many years as an undersized kid.

Instead, take all the time in the world you can to do the things you enjoy doing and socializing. You mentioned you have a tough time socializing, so I would suggest just trying to socialize a little bit more every day. These are people that can hold a conversation already so if you put in that effort to start the conversation just say hi, and ask how their day is going , they will be able to help you from there. A question you could ask in your conversations is how to socialize. Try it out and let me know. Definitely respond with some other activities you enjoy.

Those will be a good starting place. Also, take the time to find out what you enjoy. And remember Dakota, the only person that dictates whether you are a loser or not is you. Remind yourself that you are a good person who is working on themselves and growing. Ive been checking back to this article pretty frequently over the last few weeks due to the expanding comment thread, and I have to say that when I saw your post it definitely hit home with me. First of all, MAD props to you for being able to reach out to other people with honesty, and intent to actually better yourself. I used to be in a very similar boat to you, and it took me a lot of years of working on myself — by myself and struggling before I reached out to other people for help with my growth.

I have alot of respect for what you have done, and the actions you have taken themselves are the biggest proof that you are not a loser dude. A little about myself — Growing up I was like you so eloquently quoted yourself, a loser. I had almost no friends that werent directly related to my sport, and I didnt know the first thing about making friends either. How could someone want to be friends with me? I was shy, reserved, and incredibly lanky and with terrible acne to boot. The closest woman to me until I was almost sixteen was my mother. I felt weird, and disappointed that I didnt have close people in my life.

I knew deep down, that I was a cool and nice person. I just didnt know how to show that to the world yet. I agree alot with what Cam mentioned, you are young and now is the time to enjoy the fact that your 14! Take the time to find activitys outside of the digital world that you really enjoy doing, and dedicate your time to excelling at them. In time, you will come out of your shell, and let the world know what a bad ass dude you are.

Yo fella, 14 your still young bro… alot of kids are into computer games having said that its good you realize there not the here-all end-all of life!! First and foremost man, you are a far braver person than most are at I never even thought to ask for help because I had totally given up on the idea of having friends. This is a good thing: After that Dakota, just take some time to make yourself happy.

Run, lift, jump rope, climb trees, hunt rabbits, whatever gets your blood flowing. Your only 14 man but it can be hard to see how large the world is sometimes when your focused on the small issues. Friends will come, women will come but these things can only be possible when you stop thinking that your self worth is solely based off of these two things. Find your own happiness first, and then others are going to see how radical you are and want to join in the fun. Thanks for taking the time to leave your thoughts.

I really like the Wrestling suggestion. Wrestling is one of those sports that I find really develops their athletes into work ethic beasts with incredible discipline and drive. I know it sounds cliche but Be Yourself. Get out there and create your own persona. Get to meet people and find out what you like to do. When you meet more people, you will feel comfortable with yourself and with others.

People will get to see the real you. You dont have to do this wearing trendy clothes or doing what other people tell you. Live your own life and everything will fall into place. When I was your age, I was in what appears to be a very similar position to you. In school, I thought I was a loser, and all I wanted to do was fit in with other kids and be the popular one.

No matter what group of people I tried to hang out with at lunch break or even in class, everyone seemed to dismiss me as weird and either ignore me or straight out just pick on me. Bullying was just a part of life for me in my junior high years, and going to school every day was in some ways the physical bane of my existence. It was hard to connect with anyone, but at least here no one would shove me or deliberately try to bring me down as soon as I tried to start a conversation or make a comment.

I got huge into World of Warcraft. A few other guys on the swim team were playing it, so I decided to join in as well. Needless to say, it consumed me. It was so easy to go home and just grind for hours at a time, not saying a word to anyone except the people in my guild and my two friends who played with me. And for two years, it worked. It definitely helped me get through my troublesome junior high years where I was awkward and bullied to my high school years where I was…well…awkward, but at least no one noticed me. Not that it mattered, I fit in where I cared most about anyway…in WoW. With the bullying that repressed my individualism gone, I was able to think about things and desire things that I had never even considered before due to my negative self-perception…like girls for example.

I remember there was this one super cute girl in my bio class too and for the entire first year of my high school career, I would just be debating in my mind over and over again if I should talk to her or not. Even though I thought she was super cute and cool, in my mind there were so many reasons against it. How can I even talk to her?

It took me 18 months until I finally asked her out, and man, it was hard. She ended up saying no, but 2 weeks later, I found out that an even cuter girl at swimming had a crush on me. I asked her out, and we had an absolutely phenomenal relationship that lasted over 3 years.

For the video games: For example, if you and your friend who recently moved away play any games online together Starcraft, LoL, DoTa, etc. I realize that they are a pretty integral part to teen culture, so completely omitting video games from your life might even hurt your ability to connect with others in some cases. Cam said a lot of really good things and I would take them to heart. As for girls, if someone really likes you they will like you for you. Remember girls like confidence, find something you do well and show that side of you.

Girls are attracted to that. For example if your funny use humor as an ice breaker to find common ground with a girl you like. Find something that makes you happy regardless of others. Focus more on positive things like learning something new and fun. If your happy with who you are then others will see that too. Losers a term put onto a select few by people who are afraid of differences amongst people.

They have no idea how hard a small word such as loser hurts someone just for being unique and being their own person. So what you play video games instead of being captain of the football team. I am completely blown away that a 14 year old took the time to ask a really awesome group of individuals on how you can expand socially to help you get where you want to be.

They have all been where you are now and are super dope guys now- AND I love to surround myself with. As a womans perspective- Matt is right when he says that girls like guys who are super passionate about the things they do. Get out of your room, away from the TV and out in to doing a sport or activity that you can surround yourself with people who are passionate about the same things you are. However the wrestling idea is a pretty good one! You will make friends effortlessly as passion breeds success and people naturally gravitate to people who are happy and successful.

I went in to dance and met so many amazing people when I felt really alone after a big move. I left a lot of my friends behind so it was terrifying meeting new people but by getting in to new activities it allowed me to meet people who liked the things that I did. Thanks for commenting and reaching out to us! I would love to see more kids your age take that kind of responsibility for their own growth.

You have a lot more strength than you probably give yourself credit for. All of these responses are great. Everything you wrote in this article hits me subconsciously, even though I think of it but never really admit it. This hits me like I was traveling deep down in my past 10 years ago.

It was a dumb repetitive mouse clicking games, yet us students became friend and we game in the computer lab afterschool, this went on for a while, and we got addicted, but their addiction were not as strong as mine. I was literally consumed by the game and I usually played like 12 hour straight, and usually play games until like 9 pm then do homework and head to bed. I hide my game window and pretend I was doing homework when my parent comes in my room. I cry now, because I needed help but my mind was sub-consciously wanting me to continue playing video games, it is like a disorder.

I went from the elite excel classes down to the mediocre. The addiction was so powerful because I was an godly FPS player, I literally end up with kill death ratio, and it literally made you want to play more and more. I think that why my addiction never stopped,.

I think one of the closest time that I was about to quit for good was when computer video games always have cheaters, aimbotter,hackers etc. I even eventually reject to go out with friend, hang out socially, I even lie to them that I was busy just to play video games. Even my parents were amazed how I can sit for 18 hour straight at home in front of the computer not moving not exercising, for many years. Through my teenage year, I have not been very social, and it was extremely detrimental because I rarely spoke or improve my communication skills. I barely read, and it has causes me to have disorder similar to dyslexia.

I was extremely trouble forming sentences when I started getting a bit nervous, and broken sentences fragment comes out of my mouth, and people have trouble understanding me. I really want to quit and move on with my life. I found this article completely by chance. Skyrim is, hands down, probably the best game for a couple of years to come. So as you can imagine, I played it for hours and hours as soon as it came out Nov The download off of Steam finished over night. The 11th was a Friday. Yeah, I skipped class, played till 10, repeated that on Saturday and Sunday. During the week I played as well but not as much since I had class.

Weekend came, and I did it all over again. Completely shut out the rest of the world and focused on Skyrim…. Now, it really hit me last night. I was out with my friends surprising seeing as how I actually went out instead of choosing to play Skyrim and one of them told me of his new girlfriend. The other told me of a girl he was beginning to make move up on. I actually am not into anyone but I think the reason is because of my fucking anti-social gaming habits.

And to experience something, I have to actually be doing it, right? Happy to receive your comments. I hope you guys can use the concepts within to quit gaming and start living your life to the fullest. What activities can you fill your video game time with? And when you want to have a bit of downtime which is necessary , what are you going to do? Thanks so much Cam! I really hope this article helps me quit video games all together, and get rid of my addiction. Well I find this a hard topic to discuss, I guess the first step to changing is admitting you have a problem.

Im 14 and I feel I have a problem. My reclusive behaviors have cut me off from the world. I still get out and enjoy things with my family, but other then my friends I have met online, I dont really feel like Ive got many other friends. I guess thats ok with me because I think being out of social contact really gives you an appreciation for solitude and peace.

I recently had a discussion with my parents about it because I felt it might be getting out of control. They were very supportive and I know I can count on them when I need help. Im trying to focus on mt music and becoming better at that, but I always have this haunting feeling that ive done something wrong, and that maybe im missing something…. Exploring in Yahoo I ultimately stumbled upon this website. I such a lot without a doubt will make sure to don?

Thanks for coming by and commenting. How have things been going since you commented at the end of November?

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Have you been focusing on your music like you mentioned you would? Do you collaborate with anybody else on your music? Having a passion for music is great, and will definitely be a worthwhile investment of your time. Like Skyrim which i recently started playing. Since stumbling upon this post recently i have sold my copy of Skyrim, i realise that playing games is not doing me any good at all. I have quit games all together. Thanks for the advice and wish me luck. I just came to say that after a month from reading this article, I have decreased my gaming time every week till I eventually stopped playing all together.

I kinda find it funny that there were so many professional tips and resources for how to stop playing video game but your Article was like the golden ticket, just completely wow, blew me away. Junior- Super pumped to have you give me an update. What are you spending your time doing nowadays instead of playing video games? I definitely feel like the other resources out there -although offer a few good tips- really miss the core of the problem.

Keep up the good work. If so, nearly everyone does it to pathological proportions. I would dispute that video games are the only problem here. Playing video games, social networking, watching videos, sports, music, etc. If you merely shift from one temporary escape to another you are simply shifting the addiction, not curing it. You can have constant measurable growth by doing past exam papers.

Each question done is a measured growth, and you can measure your ability by checking your exam results. Nobody that I know is addicted to doing past exam papers, or does this appear to be a popular pastime. Popular addictive games such as Counter-Strike and Starcraft do not provide constant measurable growth. You win one match only to lose another, depending on how good your team is and what strategy the other team decides to pursue.

Often game outcomes are decided when one player in one team leaves the game. It is difficult to have constant measurable growth in a game where outcomes depends highly on map, team composition, other circumstantial reasons. Smurfs further destroy the already flawed ranking system. Pretty much every problem poses a challenge. There are numerous unsolved mathematical problems including:.

None of these have been resolved and are sure to pose a challenge to anyone and each has a reward of one million dollars , but I have yet to hear of anyone dying from spending 50 hours on trying to solve these problems. Video game addiction has little to do with social needs, which are nowdays mostly fulfilled by social networking websites. People used to be addicted to Pacman, Contra or Space Invaders. These were singleplayer games yet were very addictive for some.

The addicts competed against their own high scores. With the advent of multiplayer gaming, players can now compete against players other than themselves, thus vastly increasing the challenge. Unlike the AI, players good players that is get better by practicing and learning from past experiences, thus providing more of a challenge. Also, the social aspect does not explain the increasing popularity of flash games, most of which are single player. Even if you are not addicted to one particular flash game, playing through the numerous games that come out every week takes up a lot of time.

Some people spend hundreds of hours trying to get a high score on a singleplayer flash game. This is clearly addiction, yet it has no social aspect. There are escapes that work for one group of people but not another. Playing guitar might allow you to get away whereas I can care less. So really you can only list common ones as examples but it could be anything.

As far as shifting the addiction, the addiction is not just the act of escapism. Video games provide escapism but it is their combined components that can lead down the path of addiction for some people. Working out, sports or social dynamics might allow for escapism but it is not often that they become compulsions leading to not socializing, not sleeping, poor diet or ignoring things that would make the rest of your life better. In addition most people have some idea if they are getting better at something even if growth slows to a crawl or effectively hits a ceiling.

Like the counterstrike example, I knew I was getting better for a long time based on the increasing situations that I could survive through or how many people I could mow down without dying. Honestly by the time I was no longer getting better the addiction hooks were in and all the other points in the article still applied.

If you are getting better at performing a static task or able to accomplish an increasingly difficult task then that for all intents and purposes is measurable growth. It has to be challenging but doable. If I am starting to workout for the first time ever, put lbs on the barbell and then try to bench press it, it will not be long before I give up on working out. Immensely difficult or seemingly impossible tasks are not ones that we continue to pursue unless it is absolutely necessary survival. The examples listed are beyond the scope of the vast majority of humanity.

People want something that is hard but not too hard. Also how many funny or incredible stories start or end with the person telling the story not interacting with any other people around them? It does provide great advice towards using some of the similarities between gaming and new pursuits. It is easier to create a new habit that pulls you in positive direction than it is to destroy an old negative one.

Also breaking down the points separately like I am guilty of here myself weakens their synergistic effect. No activity that provides only one of the listed points would be as successful as any pursuit that that combined more of the points. Which is also the reason that some chores do not become addictive. Also would have to thank you Cam as you are right that most video game addiction articles do not approach it in a real world manner. I have learned a lot using video games: I put the onus on myself to improve my situation.

I am unattached to outcomes. I keep challenging myself to improve and get more efficient. I get really really good at the problem. I get to amuse all my dedication, creativity, and perseverance. And then Cam made me ask myself: Find at least five classes that MAY interest me and sit in on a lecture to introduce myself to the class. I will cook it with reckless abandon. I also want to get more involved in this community, improve my writing, take social dance classes signed up during this post: Look how busy I am already! Definitely some intriguing conversation.

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My perspective is the one I currently believe to be closer to the goal of having a real framework to succeed in a specific goal — in this case, being able to quit playing video games for good. Each comment is feedback that we can pool together and as a collective ideally get closer and closer towards being able to succeed. That is without question true. Something to understand about the post is that these points on their own will lack the ability to stand firm and be the singular cause of someones addiction to video games.

You should not, and I do not recommend this in my article, simply shift from one temporary escape to another. Something you are passionate about, and something that leads to you working on your purpose. The purpose of life is a life of purpose, after all. I completely agree that this is not the one and be-all post about video game addiction.

If your goal is to quit video games, the chance you have of success is much greater by filling the time with an activity with similarities, albeit one that is productive and towards your purpose as I stated above. It could be anything, but most people tend to engage in the common ones such as watching television, reading fiction and playing games. In my opinion these are all as bad as each other in terms of practical value generated.

Any activity that provides escapism is usually addictive. Watching television or reading fiction for example can be very addictive and destroys lives. For Measured Growth to be constant there must be an external as opposed to internal mechanism of checking progress. Also in Starcraft, the vast of majority of UMS players and I only play UMS have the same rating of , thus making it impossible to know who is a pro and who is a noob.

Even in ladder games, players with low ratings very often beat players with high ratings. Your mental idea of your skill level is neither Constant nor is it Measurable. This does not invalidate my point. There is a wide range and available of problems to pick from, easily accessible from the internet. My point is why do people play video games instead of doing maths problems of equal difficulty? Most people are not addicted to puzzle games and are instead addicted to FPS games which do not really provide much of an abstract challenge, only activation of the sympathetic nervous system.

Telling stories is an inherently social activity — you are telling a story to amuse someone else. Playing Space Invaders or Pacman is definitely not — you are killing aliens and eating ghosts by yourself. And the similarities may be so great that the new pursuits are not much more productive than gaming itself. Breaking down the points separately is how science works.

RPG games lack both the social and the challenge aspects. In other words you are recommending breaking the addiction instead of simply shifting it. Whilst this is the ultimate solution, it seems to be beyond the ability of the majority of addicts. How many times have your parents told you to stop playing games and do something productive with your time? How many times have you actually listened? I suspect not many. The same is true with the vast majority of addicts. When you quit an addiction for even a few days, you experience withdrawal symptoms that make you think twice about quitting that addiction.

Eventually the temptation is too great and you relapse. As I have already said, these 4 components are not present in all video game addictions, the only factor in common with all video game addictions is escapism. Video games are a catch all term for a delivery method in the same way that a bottle can carry beer, water or soda.


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The things that make them addictive are not going to be the same from genre to genre. They all would have different aspects that would make them addictive to different types of people. Likewise your favorite genres could be completely different. It seems that certain genres lead to addiction more than others, which probably has to do with certain traits that are hardwired into most people to some degree or another. Two reasons that I can think of that video games are addictive other than what is listed in the article are probably not what you want to bring to future endeavors:.

Delivery Method- Internet use by itself is found to be habit forming for a lot of people. Video games use the same method but amplified. Rewards for actions tend to be immediate, extravagant and frequent. As your brain grows accustomed to this type of feedback other real world feedback can feel slow and numb. Gambling Mechanisms- Grinding out your WOW character long after the rational side of your brain would love to do something else?

But instead of once every couple of minutes it then hammers your brain with it a couple dozen times a minute. Even friendly competition adds the amount of focus that someone brings to an activity. You could break down each genre separately and based on personality type. Lets say WOW for example. Someone lonely might grow addicted to the escapism and the social aspects of the game.

Someone predisposed towards gambling addiction or maybe likes the feeling of succeeding would fall into the measurable growth and item grinding aspects of the game. A FPS is escapism, challenging competitive ,social with some measurable growth which delivers feedback at a quick and consistent pace.

It might depend on what the persons personality is combined with a certain type of game. Think of it this way. You ask me why I like my girlfriend. I broke down why I like my girlfriend into four variables. Much like which game mechanics encourage addictive behavior varies from game to game, there are probably different life circumstances as well as genetics that make someone more susceptible to addiction.

Which is why I would think there are two sides to quitting an addiction. One is the withdrawl symptoms that can persist for awhile after. Thats why people say you need to actually be ready to quit.

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You need to be vigiliant on keeping away from games and be willing to push through the uncomfortable feelings. It will subside but it can take time for some people. The additional things to deal with would often be loneliness ,depression, bordom or whatever it is you need escapism and gaming for in the first place. You cannot back away from the addiction without replacing it with something. If video games were what you did with most of your free time then you better have something in mind to replace it. You can only stand to be bored or lonely out of your mind for so long until you will boot up your favorite games again.

One other thing I speculate about is that the more interests you have the less susceptible you would be to a mental addiction. If I play in a band, work out and occasionally surf, I would be less likely to have video games ever be more than a distraction in my spare time. As started, I vowed to myself that I would stop gaming once and for all. For a while now I have been gaming and have only just recently admitted that I am addicted.

This article especially how you were in my position has given me the strength that I need to really quit. You have changed my life, thankyou. Happy New Year to you as well. Keep me posted on your progress. I have made the decision to quit games forever so I will never be a game addict again. Or an addict to anything that I can identify. I now fill my time with everything I had put off — exercise, reading, writing, socializing etc.

The most important thing is that you quit the addiction. New hobbies will automatically fill the void. You actually need to be continuously denying the urge to play. It is at first hard and it will be painful — accept it. So heres the thing man, I just quit gaming for the year of Just to see what happens.

And with my spare tie I decided to do a little research on others who have quit gaming and came across this page. And wow, so if I quit gaming I could become a whoremongering, over-ego, disc jockey who proclaims his righteousness in the fact that he quit looking at something that intruiged him. I was rooting for you at the beginning of this article, but holy shit man. All the pictures of hot chicks playing games I thought you were building up to a point, but it turns out your just another dude chaising tail, and games were getting in the way of another addiction.

Think about that shit. Woman want to please, and they will do so to theyre own ends. You take advantage of that, and honestly the world was probably alot better when you were harmlessly gaming day in and out. You aint nothing more than a crack addict whose found the light in meth. Massive thanks to you CAM, made an actual difference. I actually appreciated the questions because if anything they further refined what I think about gaming addiction. It is ridiculously hard at first.

At least it was for me. When I tried quitting for the first time I actually can remember where everything else I tried doing just felt boring and lifeless. You picked up good hobbies but it is just as easy for people to fill their time with tv watching ,more mindless web surfing or maybe just wasting more time with friends. Actually you said something similar yourself. Awesome that you quit either way.

Visitor- I agree with what you say. Although the 4 areas are important to fill, you still need to make sure you make the decision to quit the addiction too, and continue to deny that urge. Conscious effort is the only way. Rob- I appreciate you coming by and commenting. Either way, I wish you the best of luck quitting video games. Seb- Happy to hear the post helped you out. Stoked to hear about another DJ! What kind of music are you spinning? I post my mixes up on soundcloud, and would be happy to connect with you and listen to your stuff.

Dunno what to say- I really appreciate you taking the time to help reply and contribute more to the conversation. Your insight is valuable to me. I was playing hardcore the same as you, but after reading this article i decided that i need to do something with my life, and to really start having a life, instead of just letting it pass by me when i sit every day and night playing video games.

I started exercising, and i have more time to study and develop a career, so thanks for the eyeopening article. Thanks for popping in and leaving your comment. I appreciate you taking the time. Exercising is a great start.